Had the idea in mind...

So, I want to start my own RP site, I've made two others, both failed due to lack of administration(Needed staff, no one wanted to be staff...) but third times the charm. (trust me, I'd try five-hundred times if needed) Anyway, I can't decide on a proper theme for the RP. I can't think of anything but anime/manga, since original ideas fail me, but I wouldn't mind doing vid-game either. However, last night I was hit with a good idea:

A mix up of everything in one RP!(As in, Naruto may end up fighting...sonic the hedgehog, or Vegeta vs. Greed, etc.)

I've seen it done before, but never to a really large scale or the idea they had was...meh. I have been putting a storyline together since yesterday, but it's still coming out a bit foggy. I'll deal with that, but I need you to answer the poll question.

Answers:

1. Video Game Characters vs Manga Characters -- A basic idea, and manga would probably win, but I could try it.

2. Evil Characters vs. Good Characters -- Probably the most appropriate, I could picture Eggman, Tobi, Cell, Bowser, and Aizen all teaming up, + more.

3. Large-Scale War with no real sides -- A territory battle with no allies or true enemies, only those who attack you. It'll be a bit chaotic, but it's a choice.

4. More than two sides against each other -- this means a three-way battle, or two nations teaming up on two nations, etc.

Voting ends in 3 days, and I won't vote, unless to tie-break!

All out war!

But, dont just make it anime/magna characters. If I were you, I would make the anime/magna/vid game characters NPCs in the game, but normal, no mods, just play as their own thing, normally alligned to a anime/magna/vid game char.

Personally I don't believe using canon characters is a good idea at all. I mean sure if they were just NPCs for mods to use, like the heads of the 'teams' in question, but it would ultimately fall apart if everyone was using canonical characters [in my opinion].

Perhaps character Creation, but making the character based on/From the same Universe as a Game/Magna/Anime?

Darknesslord wrote:

All out war!

But, dont just make it anime/magna characters. If I were you, I would make the anime/magna/vid game characters NPCs in the game, but normal, no mods, just play as their own thing, normally alligned to a anime/magna/vid game char.

I'm aiming for a mixture of both, and I plan on having a few different kinds of mods, such as:

NPC's -- Play as random encounters or characters made to solely move a thread's plot along

Character Graders -- If someone wishes to use a cannon character from somewhere, then this mod/admin(MUST have a good ability in Role Playing) will test them in a fake fight, judging whether or not they are fit for the role.

because restricting the rights of using a cannon character to staff seems unfair, when I want my members to have the most fun they can have.

Namine wrote:

Personally I don't believe using canon characters is a good idea at all. I mean sure if they were just NPCs for mods to use, like the heads of the 'teams' in question, but it would ultimately fall apart if everyone was using canonical characters [in my opinion].

This relates to my answer with the above statement. I don't want to restrict my members from using the characters that they want. And why would it fall apart if I where to use cannon characters? They do not affect RP storyline on such a massive scale as you think they do, if sites can pull off cannons with customs, I should have no problems(And If I used no cannons, then it wouldn't be a multiverse RP)

rileysaura wrote:

Perhaps character Creation, but making the character based on/From the same Universe as a Game/Magna/Anime?

Why are you all so paranoid about using cannons? Sure, if they're put in the wrong hands then they wreak havoc, but I have the character graders(I will be one of them) to judge those people. If you:

- Overuse a special technique
- Go out of character
- Only role play a few lines
- godmod
- don't fluently speak English(no offense to anyone, but it has to be done)

then you won't get the character.

p.s. your all spelling MANGA wrong, and it's grinding my gears >.<

nyeh...sorry, typing too fast XD

Anyway, the problem with using too many Canons is, as you say, it will cause havoc. If Members were to make Custom Characters, even related to Canons, it would at least retain a small sense of Creation

MaximumMajin wrote:

(And If I used no cannons, then it wouldn't be a multiverse RP)

Uhh, yeah it would. You use the techniques and species from the different universes...

MaximumMajin wrote:

Why are you all so paranoid about using cannons?

Well, because cannons are by definition:
"any piece of artillery that uses gunpowder or other usually explosive-based propellants to launch a projectile."

MaximumMajin wrote:

p.s. your all spelling MANGA wrong, and it's grinding my gears >.<

So? You're spelling 'canon' wrong...and that's the wrong form of 'your'. You want to be picky, then I will too.

At your first statement: I don't want it to be completely Fan-made, that makes it feel too free, and I want it to have some kind of solid back-story where I won't have to come up with fifty different characters, and expect people to role play as them all. If I did that, then the mods wouldn't have a chance to make or be someone of their choosing. Of course, the RP would NOT revolve around canon characters ENTIRELY, and will probably have them as supporting roles to the big-shots of the RP.

Second Statement: You call me picky for correcting people who miss-pronounce what I live for, but it's not picky to search through my post trying to pick out my mistakes?
(Combining third statement in here): please stay on topic. It isn't picky, Manga is an art form and I'd like it to be spelled correctly, because when it isn't, it's degrading. I'd rather spell canon wrong then degrade people who work their entire day creating comics for peoples amusement.

Did I say I wasn't being picky? To the contrary, I specified I was in fact being picky. You'd rather not have an art form be degraded, and I'd rather not have a language be degraded. Are we really so different? When the spelling changes the entire meaning of a sentence, it's not a small thing.

As for the first statement, you wouldn't have to create a bunch of characters for it. I didn't say 'Have NO canon characters WHATSOEVER' or anything. Just said that not having canon characters doesn't mean it's not based in the multiverse world. In fact, many Pokemon RP sites use no canon characters other than the Pokemon themselves, which would be like 'techniques and species' that I listed before. You ask for opinions, I gave them. You correct others, I correct back. What's given is what is received.

And also sometimes people dont even use canon Pokemon...

You dont need a hard story, just something solid that explains why everything is the way it is and why these canon characters are at the state that they are at. Then in player profiles, in the template, just make the person creating the profioe decide how their character got their. I can see it being done fairly.

Also, canons are derived from manga, an many other art forms, therefore canon is also an art form.

An it seriously seems like you two are just having an argument.

Namine's first response: And this effected you because? The correction was not aimed on you, thus you had no fair ground to counter even as self-defense. If you'd prefer, I could tak liek dis fur eva. This is a forum, language is not spoken but written here, and there are bound to be mistakes. This contradicts what I said before, so why am I saying this? Because I put my correction as a way to maybe change how someone spelled Manga, because it is a foreign word and not many people know how to spell it, and it was just a little tidbit at the end. How you managed to hit on pretty much my entire post based on it escapes me.

Second: I agree with Pokemon. But, I'm not making a Pokemon RP. Pokemon does not have very many official canons-not even Ash, we just know him from the anime, because there are so many Pokemon books, manga, games, and even small spin-off anime that all have different "canons", and are all licensed by Nintendo. For this to work, it needs to have recognizable characters. If canons are not at the base of the RP, then I wouldn't be able to call it a Multiverse that contains certain manga and Video games. I probably said that wrong, but here's an example: I can't call a site: "Super Mario RP", with all the Mario locations, power-ups, and enemies, and have the main character George the Rhinoceros.
Btw, I did not ask for your opinion on the entire thing. I asked that you answered the poll question, which you didn't.

@Darkness, whom I just realized posted: Ok, I don't want to cause trouble in my own thread, even though the only thing I asked was to answer a simple four-answer poll, and you where the only one capable of doing so...

Sometimes people don't use canons? Well, yeah, of course not everyone will use them, but I've migrated from at least ten other RPs, and I can tell you that canon characters are among the most popular of characters in an RP, if available.

Oh, and canon does not just derive from manga, it's used to name something akin to a certain thing, and shouldn't be grouped together with it.

I still don't understand what you all have against Canons. As soon as I said I would have them, which I am going to, probably a lot depending on what I'm doing, all of you went hysterical. I want to point out one thing, so this pointless arguing stops:

I'M USING CANONS. HOW MANY, IDK, BUT AT LEAST 20, PROBABLY. THIS IS NOT OPEN FOR DEBATE, WHAT I WANT TO KNOW NOW IS HOW YOU WOULD PREFER THE STORY TO BE SET UP.


EDIT:
I almost forgot! I also need a name for this RP.
it's a clash between ton of Manga and video games, non in particular(Canons are ones from vid games/manga that I base the RP around, but members can generally base their characters on anything)
and I can't decide on a good name.

Nobody went hysterical but you, sir. Maybe you should check my post. They were mere sentences. Not once did I use anything that implied yelling, screaming, or freaking out of any sort, nor did the others. Only you did. You said that you couldn't think of or decide on a proper theme, and so I merely made a suggestion against doing pure canon. You asked why, and I responded. I didn't claim the statement about 'canon' in response to your 'manga' thing was in self defense, but if you are going to sit there and be picky about someone's spelling because it 'grinds your gears' then so will I. You know what one of my pet peeves happens to be? Bad spelling, grammar, and improper forms of words. So as you said, it really 'grinds my gears'.

"Because I put my correction as a way to maybe change how someone spelled Manga" This, sir is what gives me fair right to tell you that you were doing something wrong. You want others to know, and correct something they aren't doing right, and so do I.

"Pokemon does not have very many official canons-not even Ash, we just know him from the anime"
This is the very definition of 'canon'. Directly taken from official sources whether it be anime, manga, books, etc.

In response to "Oh, and canon does not just derive from manga, it's used to name something akin to a certain thing, and shouldn't be grouped together with it." He never said it was only derived from Manga. I quote "Also, canons are derived from manga, an many other art forms".

Fine, this argument is pointless and will be continued into eternity if not stopped now, without consequences for the both of us, as implied by Darknesslord. This would've never happened if I never corrected Manga, but all of the sudden your chewing mew out for it when you flamed me?(You sparked the argument by saying I was picky, and directly said it again. Some admin.) I'm not just going to back down though. By hysterical, I mean it's the only thing you guys seemed to care about. Darknesslord was the only one who actually voted, which reminds me, if you aren't voting, then why are you posting in the thread? Yeah, I did want a theme, but I NEVER stated it was to be ALL canon. The naruto vs sonic thing was an example to give people on what a Multiverse was, if they didn't know, if that's what your referring to.

But another thing that, for the use of humor, grinds my gears, is that when I correct someone's grammar its bad, but when YOU do it, it's fine? Because that's what you seem to be saying. If you're arguing I escalated it more, which I know I did at some point(s) since I am in the argument, it was because you corrected my spelling Mockingly(the definition was pointless, and was some attempt to make me look like an ass. Once again, trolling/flaming.)

And what is with the "Picky" anyway? I'm picky just because I see the word all the time and notice it's spelled wrong? If you really had a pet peeve, then why didn't you correct it before I did? And how come I've never seen you correct very much else on the site, even when I see mistakes even in my own posts? And nothing gives you the right to ever claim that what another person is doing is wrong. Nothing. Not your rank on the site, your position in an argument, nothing. And if I was doing something wrong, it's OK when you do it, since you did say:
[quote=Namine]and so do I[/quote]

your canon with pokemon statement isn't completely true, although it does come from official sources. So, filler arcs in anime are also canon? They can't be considered canon since they are not part of the official story, but they're in the official Anime, which is what your saying.

UUURRGGG, all this arguing really makes me want to argue, which I'll admit is one of my pet peeves. You know what? I take back what I said. When I'm mad, I argue, and I shouldn't. The only thing I don't take back, for reals, is the fact that when I correct something it's wrong, but when you do it it's right. You've shown that the entire argument.

just vote in the freakin' poll, and help me come up with a name for this un-named project.
I won't spark this up again, as long as this isn't sparked up by you again.

"But another thing that, for the use of humor, grinds my gears, is that when I correct someone's grammar its bad, but when YOU do it, it's fine?"

I said nothing of the sort. I said that if you do something, then don't expect others to not do it to you. That was my point, nothing of "I'm right and you're wrong" nothing.

"You sparked the argument by saying I was picky, and directly said it again. Some admin."

I also said I was being picky. I'm being very unbiased, it's you who is acting as though it's alright for you to say something, but not the other way.

"it was because you corrected my spelling Mockingly(the definition was pointless, and was some attempt to make me look like an ass. Once again, trolling/flaming.)"

Actually, I was just trying to make a joke that time. Everyone else seemed to find that blurb funny besides you because you assume I'm attacking you.

"And what is with the "Picky" anyway? I'm picky just because I see the word all the time and notice it's spelled wrong? If you really had a pet peeve, then why didn't you correct it before I did? And how come I've never seen you correct very much else on the site, even when I see mistakes even in my own posts?"

Because, I'm nice enough to overlook things and grit my teeth. I only correct people who insist on correcting others {and Doragon but that's a whole different story}.

"And nothing gives you the right to ever claim that what another person is doing is wrong. Nothing. Not your rank on the site, your position in an argument, nothing. "

Then don't do it to others. Quit being a hypocrite.

"when I correct something it's wrong, but when you do it it's right. You've shown that the entire argument."

I never said that. If anything, I was saying expect the same treatment you dish out. You correct others, and so expect to be corrected right back.

As for voting, I don't want to since I don't agree with any of the choices personally, however as for name...Since you're basing it off multiverse, why not something to do with that?

<--- is currently Cooling off and trying not to argue, and I know I've obviously lost this argument(Trust me, I've gotten into more embarrassing...ya ever argue over carrots in a thread about the color of bananas? I have. xD)

I see your point now, but I wasn't expecting no one to say anything about it. Using the 'Grinding my gears' part was a way to spice things up a bit, and to seem a bit less formal.. I could have said: "Your all stupid, you can't even spell Manga right when I had it right in front of you", but I didn't.

And even though ya did say that you where being picky, pointing at me and accusing me of being picky isn't any better, especially when I wasn't trying to pick through someone's post to deliberately pick out a misspelling, I just saw it in spell check and noticed the switching of the letters. And still, it didn't affect you, so I still don't see your reason for arguing. If they wanted to lash at me, I'd see their reasoning. I understand that your an admin, yadda yadda yadda, but still.

Meh, I've run out of things to say, so I loose.(You may want to get used to this. I find myself in a lot of arguments, however, I don't start most of them. I will say I started this one with the comment, but I don't start most. Whether you believe me or not is your own accord) And with this closing, I dismiss the I.Q-lowering argument of which is made out of my own idiocy and failure to expect equal to what I give to others.

Back on topic, Yeah, I was going to do that, but it's hard to think of one that would fit the mixture of the manga/vid-games in subject. And if you don't like the scenarios given, could you fill me in on your own? Note that they do not involve canon characters, except for the one about the good and the evil, but I do want to know how you'd run it.

Thank you for finally understanding that I wasn't really attacking you. As for why it got brought up is because I wasn't actually picking, I notice a lot of these things on first site. Simply put, seeing you correct spelling when you'd misspelled another word many times in the same post just...didn't seem right. As I said, if someone insists on correcting, I often correct right back [ask Natsume].

Well, first let's make a list of words that could be used in the instances. You want it to be a multiverse war RP essentially.
Multiverse: universe, planes, alternate reality, crossover
War: battle, brawl, challenge, fight
To be a simple one, it could be something like "Ultimate Crossover Challenge" or some crud.

My ideas? Most of my ideas are from my nightmares, so it's probably best to keep them locked away. I also tend to want stat systems and true battle systems, so another thing to probably not really ask me ^^ I'll get all formula on you. Yet, as far as set-up have neutral areas that aren't all constant battle so that characters can have peaceful RP time as well. Nobody likes constant action. It simply gets boring.

heh, I don't think I'd use Ultimate Cross-over challenge, but I think you've got me on the right path name-wise.

As for Your system, yeah, I too am so system-oriented it's not even funny xD
I'm currently trying to think of a good use of stats without one character ultimately defeating another one, but I don't think that'll be too much of a challenge.

Stat systems are actually more challenging to come up with than you may think. Why? Well, because then each move also has to have an associated power and etc, etc. Yet even in this light, free-form are ultimately flawed as they essentially allow the weakest character to win against the strongest if nobody calls them out on it.

Oh, trust me, I know how challenging they can be. I've made one before that I liked, it's basic and generic, but it works:

Each character has a strength and a durability stat(For physical blows, there are also ones for things like energy based, but it's calculated the same) And each (Physical) attack has a base power stat. Add those together, and you get the maximum damage. Subtract the target's defense from that number, and you get the damage that character takes. If it's in the negatives, then the attacking player hurts himself against the target's defense(Physical attacks only) I'm still calculating a dodge/miss factor, though, that's the hardest...

If it's in the negatives, it should just do less than the base power of the move in question, not harm the user unless they were wearing something like 'spiked armor' TO harm others.