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Subject: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:48 pm
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So, It's been a while since i made a topic like this. The last time if i recall it got slightly heated and people ended up viewing me in a bad light. But over the course of my time here and warming back up to people i feel after seeing many people mention evil groups etc that its a bout time this site had a proper SITE WIDE evil group. But no one has put in the effort to actually fully make one. I believe it has to do with the fact that everyone is to wholesome and do not like conflict or don't want to put the effort in. So i decided to start team rocket and of course it would then be counted as a TRAINER CLASS. If this is the case those who join will give up there old trainer class.
But the problem i believe has halted people to not be evil even if they wish to is because there is no perks and nothing truly evil they can be. People aren't put out by other people's moves. For example if i were to blow up a pokemon gym. In someone else's topic they would be able to simply rp as if the gym had never been blown up. So really there is no concern were bad guys are concerned.
Personally i believe that a group of evil people with certain perk's will liven up the rp, And make people WANT to rp with one another instead of simply rping with themselves and a mod which a majority of people do [myself included because there is no inspiration or pull to rp with others]
Now when you think Team Rocket you think Jesse James dumb witted yet occasionally kidnap a pokemon or two, but im more leaning towards Giovanni type the manga and the games. Were kidnapping and stealing is allowed. Now i know what people are thinking reading this DUDE STEALING OTHER PEOPLES POKEMON WHAT THE NO NO NO NO, Some people may be thinking Wow that's cool, That would be really good for character development [If your into character development].
Also things like interrupting topics - damaging buildings permanently/temporary - causing havoc the usual evil stuff. With a plan and a way to try to take over the world [Region]
Making something flow like this is a big thing but i have thought about it. And a few people are already looking forward to it . So first i'll talk about the big issue STEALING POKEMON.
Ok i know this is a big thing so loads of rules must be put in place but not enough to remove all the fun. So here are a few i have thought about.
Introducing Team Rocket
Born in the darkness of the Kanto Region, Team Rocket exists for a single purpose. To rule the world. World Domination through the use of stealing and destruction. They believe there name should be legendary and that the only things that will ever matter in this world is money and power. This is how there ultimate goal has been brought about. Through the use of stealing and selling pokmemon they wish to become wealthier than the wealthiest men or women in the Kanto Region while simultaneously pursuing the legendary pokemon of the different regions to control. Dark to the core there motto is "Steal Pokémon for profit. Exploit Pokémon for profit. All Pokémon exist for the glory of Team Rocket." . With there ultimate goal to take over the world using pokemon only the strongest and rarest pokemon will do thus begins there long and dangerous quest for fame wealth and power.
Team Rocket a name unheard of for millennium, Whisper's in the night of the dreaded syndicate that once roamed and caused destruction, chaos and dread within the hearts of the citizens of Kanto. The whispers starting of the rumor's that Team Rocket has once more surfaced but how after millenia. That is simple, Annabeth Chase a single simple girl has begun the work to restore this precious teams name to regrow and give new life into the old legends of the powerful dark force of the Rockets. With her brother Daemon Chase they begin the slow and hazards journey to once more use the Rocket name to strike fear and chaos into the hearts of others.
Pokemon Theft System:
Pokemon Theft
After interrupting or being in a topic, The Team Rocket member may attempt to steal ONE pokemon from a trainer, This is done via a pokemon battle. The team rocket member though evil must honour a commitment. The trainer's each put one pokemon up. They must be roughly the same level either 5 levels ahead and five below is fine so example would be -
Team rocket grunt put up Ratata level 10 - Trainer put up Magikarp level 5 or
Team Rocket put up Magikarp level 10 trainer put up pidgey level 15.
These are just examples. Now when in battle the team rocket grunt MUST USE A POKEMON that is roughly the same level as the trainer with the same rule above applying. If unable to they can battle and beat the target but can not steal a pokemon.
now this is a deal so i know this isnt stealing. This is simply idea one. The theft is simple, A person from team rocket may enter a topic and defeat a trainer, If they successfully defeat a trainer AND manage to k.o or halt the trainer from leaving they can with LOGIC steal the LOWEST level pokemon the trainer has. [As before the starter pokemon can never be stolen]
but how can they get there pokemon back.
Well here.
A Team Rocket member who has STOLEN a pokemon may NOT leave that region for an ENTIRE MONTH IRL. That team rocket member must be in three topics in that month unless they are stuck in a topic with the trainer with whom they have stolen said pokemon. When team rocket is involved exiting a topic without using logic is not allowed YOU CAN BE INTERRUPTED and vice versus.
If the trainer again with logic [can't just topic hop without any proper information] is capable of tracking down the team rocket during that month and remain in the topic or final topic when the month is over the team rocket member will tire of being tailed and willingly leave the pokemon [Kinda like in white 2 were they relinquish herdier]
If the trainer does not follow [and does not use proper logic mods will be able to rule] then team rocket has stolen that pokemon and can roam about as normal. If they ever come across that trainer again the trainer is capable [no matter when or how much time has passed] of trying to obtain there pokemon back.
Naturally there will be trainer's who are to scared or fearful to loose there pokemon, This would simply be the case were one can inform the rocket member BEFORE ENGAGING THEM IN BATTLE. If they do so, Then team rocket may just rough them up to get there name out.
This completes and gives many scenarios to how to steal and get back stolen pokemon.
Team Rocket Destruction System:
DESTRUCTION
Team Rocket aren't just all about theft of pokemon but they adore stealing powerful artifacts or Tm's. They also adore causing destruction wherever they feel possible. Destruction is something that brings chaos and ill intent, It is one of the loveliest things in this world don't you agree. But why does one need a system. Well without a system for this people will not know whats destroyed people won't know whats happened and of course the stream of fabricated and different times make it almost impossible to destroy something without a pre set agreement and system.
So my thinking on how a destruction system would work, Simple and sweet if the member destroys something then its destroyed until rebuilt. Now how is it rebuilt? That my friends is simple all that is needed would be a simple NPC mention after about a week of said place being destroyed. A simple week is not to much to ask for and is about how long some people used to wait anyway. But what about gyms? what about well contests? pretty much the only two that really matter as there is no Pokecenter or interesting area in any town forum. Well gym's and contests do not 100% need to be held within the hall or gym, A gym leader themselves is simply the challenge of a gym while the contest can be held as long as the judges are around and not kidnapped. thus not really hindering yet causing enough chaos to enable a small amount of publicity for the rouges. Simple and sweet area. Also before anyone says OH THERES NO INFORMATION ON HOW TO STOP IT, use yer brains you can easily halt this process by stopping the attacks and member who is attacking.
Interrupting Topics a small memo:
PREPARE FOR TROUBLE
Team Rokcet members have the ability to interrupt other peoples topic as long as the topic name/subject do not state that the topic is specifically for certain people or private. Any topic tag MUST BE honored and up held, If a topic is private then sorry team rocket member gonna have to wait for another chance. If a topic is open or has no specific tag then a team rocket member like all members is free to enter and thus free to caus havoc. They of course can be forced to leave a topic by being beaten or logically thrown out.
Pokemon befriending and selling:
"Son/Miss! I have a deal for YOU! And for you alone. Here's your chance. I will sell you the secret Pokémon Magikarp... For an unbelievable Pokémon Dollar500! How about it? Interested?"
When a pokemon has been stolen and the original one month is up, The pokemon stolen by the Team Rocket member can begin to work on the pokemon's friendship and try to turn them against there owner and gain control of that pokemon. This is done in a way exp is done. The Team rocket member must do a befriending post and then multiple training posts. This is due to the small friendship system i have set up below.
Each pokemon at lower to higher levels will have a friendship counter when stolen by team rocket. Starter pokemon can't be stolen due to the bond being un-breakable but any other pokemon is free game. Though it depends on the level of the pokemon. Gaining a pokemons friendship is similar to training though instead of 1 exp every ten words the friendship points are every 1 friendship point per 20 words. Like leveling up you have to get the same amount of friendship points as the pokemons level. Though pokemon born from an egg require 15 extra points due to there maternal bonds.
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An example - Pokemon A was stolen by team rocket grunt, Pokemon A is level 15. Team rocket grunt would need to do 150 words to befriend said pokemon to gain the appropriate friendship points.
I feel the system is fair and just and follows the level system with double the work of obtaining the pokemon. But you said we would have an infinite amount of time getting said pokemon back?
Well that is true, Even after being befriended the pokemon trainer whom had there pokemon stolen CAN take the pokemon back by battling or even sneaking in and taking it as long as its logical. But they would then in turn have to utilize this system to once more befriend there pokemon, Due to an original bond those non rocket members have the required friendship points halved.
A pokemon caught by team rocket and in there hands for the month without being beaten or tailed by the trainer can instead of befriending the pokemon try to pawn it off and sell the pokemon, Hey even give it to a collegue to sell it back to the original trainer if they are able to pull it off. If sold the original trainer can find the pokemon and haggle or pay for their pokemon back from who purchased it. Those who purchased a stolen pokemon MUST BEFRIEND IT USING THE BEFRIENDING SYSTEM.
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Subject: Re: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:22 pm
It's hard to read your suggestion and not say no. I am one for believing that there should be an evil group; however, there are so many things wrong in this suggestion that I see...
The first, and major issue, of this suggestion is the following; how the heck are we going to track all of the stolen pokemon? Is there going to be a flag in a user's trainer application saying [stolen by <user> of team rocket] or what? Another major issue I see is what of the hierarchy of this organization? Are the members going to willy-nilly jump into trainers' topics and just do whatever they please?
The next major issue is with the taking of user pokemon. You state that upon the pokemon being taken, the member of the team is inable to leave the region for a month in real time; however, here's my beef with this. With RP being so open-ended, it is entirely possible to logically evade the user who's pokemon was stolen a month... And after that, they can flee to another region... This risks a huge chance of the pokemon stolen never being seen again, as I see only one method of recovery; re-battling the same member that took the pokemon... If you never encounter that member again for whatever reason, then you can't get your pokemon back, and its stuck away from the trainer for a long time... This would surely wreck people's rp.
Allowing the users of the team to openly break into users' topics can also break multiple rules set on topic tags. If I state that a moderator is the only person allowed, then some other user breaks in and begins rummaging the topic, this breaks the rule set to protect the topic.
I suppose the one issue that wrecks this entire suggestion is this though; what if I don't want the team in my topic? What if I just want to RP on my own storyline, on my own time, without interferance of outside source? I see you write of other evil acts that could be committed, but here's my beef; what if you destroy a pokemon gym? If my goal were to beat all the gyms, then how can I do that if there's a gym wrecked? It isn't really possible.
The way I see it, even though this would be something good to think on severely and detail, I disagree 99%. I don't want my pokemon stolen and it have a chance to never be seen again, and I partially believe that the idea as its presented would be forcing something on others that may not want it.
Simple opinion: I disapprove this idea
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Subject: Re: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:41 pm
Fenrisulfr wrote:
It's hard to read your suggestion and not say no. I am one for believing that there should be an evil group; however, there are so many things wrong in this suggestion that I see...
The first, and major issue, of this suggestion is the following; how the heck are we going to track all of the stolen pokemon? Is there going to be a flag in a user's trainer application saying [stolen by <user> of team rocket] or what? Another major issue I see is what of the hierarchy of this organization? Are the members going to willy-nilly jump into trainers' topics and just do whatever they please?
This topic was set to get the ball rolling and to introduce an idea for one of the many systems i have in mind, This being the Theft system. I can pm you the information i have, Naturally a Higher archy will be created and of course certain rules for certain ranks an example being level capping for grunts and so on, Again this is a system for theft and not rank that information would be covered in the Rank thread which if you'd like i can create right now. Well it woudl be the team rocket and trainers part to keep track but yes they could easily mention it within there signature that said pokemon is stolen
The next major issue is with the taking of user pokemon. You state that upon the pokemon being taken, the member of the team is inable to leave the region for a month in real time; however, here's my beef with this. With RP being so open-ended, it is entirely possible to logically evade the user who's pokemon was stolen a month... And after that, they can flee to another region... This risks a huge chance of the pokemon stolen never being seen again, as I see only one method of recovery; re-battling the same member that took the pokemon... If you never encounter that member again for whatever reason, then you can't get your pokemon back, and its stuck away from the trainer for a long time... This would surely wreck people's rp.
If read properly i also state in that month at least THREE topic's should be made UNLESS stuck in a topic with the stolen pokemons trainer, IF the pokemon trainer is still tailing you in the topic when the month id up you are forced to release said pokemon. Not only that said member isvery capable of tracking someone down as well as getting the word out to other pokemon trainers who ofcourse would be capable of taking said pokemon. Also battling isnt the only way logic is a great thing you could simply use a pokemon battle as a distraction while attempting to tackle down and take the pokemon by force. YOu could stalk and follow the member to there base and thus finding there hideout, You could sneak in and take back your pokemon when there a sleep or eating. Multiple different scenarios in ways you can gain back a pokemon.
Allowing the users of the team to openly break into users' topics can also break multiple rules set on topic tags. If I state that a moderator is the only person allowed, then some other user breaks in and begins rummaging the topic, this breaks the rule set to protect the topic.
I suppose the one issue that wrecks this entire suggestion is this though; what if I don't want the team in my topic? What if I just want to RP on my own storyline, on my own time, without interferance of outside source? I see you write of other evil acts that could be committed, but here's my beef; what if you destroy a pokemon gym? If my goal were to beat all the gyms, then how can I do that if there's a gym wrecked? It isn't really possible.
The way I see it, even though this would be something good to think on severely and detail, I disagree 99%. I don't want my pokemon stolen and it have a chance to never be seen again, and I partially believe that the idea as its presented would be forcing something on others that may not want it.
Topics without tags are always seen as Open topics, Topics that state PRIVATE - MOD only and other tags must always have the tags stated honoured. What i meant by that was merely stating they can enter any untagged topic.
All you need to do is state that the topic is solo thus No one will enter said topic, any topic without a tag as you pointed out is known as free game, As for never seen again the pokemon would only never be seen again if you did nothing to look for it or attempt to get it back. If you make an attempt holding on to a member unless wiped out is a simple and easy task given the information not only here but the information covered. As for the gym and stuff. This is the THEFT pokemon system part. That will be handled once this part is complete.
Simple opinion: I disapprove this idea
Thank you for your comment, ^^ Though i did ask that staff also offer opinions on how to make it approvable instead of just giving minor bad points that if read are pre-answered.
You also say
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It's hard to read your suggestion and not say no. I am one for believing that there should be an evil group; however, there are so many things wrong in this suggestion that I see...
But without the ability to do anything suggested an evil group has no power or ability to do anything whcih goes against being an evil group.
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Subject: Re: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:48 pm
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But without the ability to do anything suggested an evil group has no power or ability to do anything whcih goes against being an evil group.
I never said that the evil group would be powerless; however, I disagree entirely with the system and I how see it ending up. You're saying it's possible a user can lose their pokemon; even if its not the biggest chance, it's there, and it can happen. I would vote on the pokemon just being returned if the team member left, but this would result in an entire reworking of what you have.
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Subject: Re: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:16 am
theft is a huge part of any pokemon group, Yes there is a chance of perma losing a pokemon, There is also a higher chance of never having a team rocket member enter your topic, There is a higher chance of never losing your pokemon and never having to even acknowledge the teams existence. Again as you put if the member left the site or team rocket then i agree the pokemon could be returned to the trainer it had begun with by rping it out.
But it seems you also have ideas? Mind elaborating on what powers/systems you would give an evil syndaciate team in the pokeverse?
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Subject: Re: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:23 am
I'm going to start hammering down some nails here.
1. Pokemon theft has occurred only with Team Rocket, Team Plasma, and Team Galactic. In each instance, only one "evil" team, and I use that word subjectively, planned to keep the Pokemon and use them indefinitely. That was Team Rocket. Galactic wanted to collect energy, and Plasma stole Pokemon under the pretense of liberating them. Team Flare, as ridiculous as they were had the right idea. Lets steal us some Pokeballs, Great Balls, and Ultra Balls to capture Pokemon. The theft of Pokemon doesn't have to be the centre of what an evil organization is about. In fact, there's plenty of development one can do outside of just "stealing Pokemon." Look at Magma and Aqua. They were at war with each other. They wanted to change the very landscape of the world, which would upset any balance that the world had. Plasma was more effective when they didn't steal Pokemon. If they had've been kept that way but still retained that sense of villainous air, they would've appeared to actually have a rather good point and planted doubt into the minds of many trainers. So my point here, is that though Pokemon Theft can lead to character development, there are other ways to entice character development via the activities of an evil organization.
2. World Response. It's easier to deal in a region, but it becomes a stressful challenge to garner and keep the attention of trainers from several different regions. I would love to see this be successful, but you are more oriented towards having Pokemon Theft being the focal point of this. This ties in with my above point, because the actions of the organisation need to gain notoriety and infamy. It's not easy maintaining interesting in an organisation that spans several regions without dedicated members of the organisation keeping up appearances and causing interference throughout the many regions.
3. On the subject of Topic Tags. There's also OOC notes people should pay attention to as well. Some private topics may state "PM for permission to join", meaning that though it's not open, you're welcome to try and present a plot to someone in their private topic. Some people like to have a posting order which might be stated there, others might have notices of absences. I don't think we use stuff like that too often though, but it's something to keep in mind.
4. @Matt. Even if a gym was to be destroyed, it wouldn't impede anything at all. Just go have a Pokemon Battle outside while it's being repaired. Gym Leaders are easily replaced, and I'm seriously not joking. We could easily just present an NPC with reasonably appropriate Pokemon in their party. Oh look I did a really positive suggestion.
5. Going into detail about Pokemon Theft, as the first instance my post mentioned it was simply for plot convenience. Let's face it, the person who takes the Pokemon would not be given control over that Pokemon. That Pokemon would not simply "lose all hope." It would likely fight back and try to get to it's trainer. Well within reason that stolen Pokemon don't immediantly obey you, thus control of said Pokemon should remain with the original owner before it was stolen. The changing of control is something that should be worked on. I've given you a very fair method of being able to steal Pokemon at this point, but how the Pokemon come to obey the new master is on you.
6. Trainer Classes. I would seriously like to see Trainer Classes themselves reworked to provide more rewarding effects on the role-playing experiences here. Breeders have it pretty good right now, but Coordinators were brought up about not having a contest system. Trainers don't really have anything special or even any type specialties outside of say, Dragon Tamer. Gym Leaders needs to be revised if it is going to stay, and Ghost is just a spirit playing trainer. Elementalists were created alongside Ealora and walk a very tight rope because if Ealora is ever taken down, they'll go too. And then there's Aura trainers. These bastards need to be revised ten-fold, because not only are they multipurpose, but can essentially read a character's alignment and act accordingly. They are the only legitimate trainer class that can use any kind of special attack here., and by legitimate I mean canon.
In short, as much as I like the idea and concept, the focal point from the beginning should not have been the theft of Pokemon. Had it been presented in a much more agreeable manner and then, later down the road say that the idea was brought up, and discussed in much detail then I would've likely been perfectly okay with fighting for this. This doesn't mean I'm outright saying no either. I'd like to see more thought put into the concept, and not to be "Team Rocket". Take the possibilities and build upon them. It's not appealing to us when the biggest point and lengthiest detail you give us is a Pokemon Theft system, which in and of itself has loopholes that can be exploited like the rules and systems of this site.
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Subject: Re: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:02 am
Kristoff wrote:
I'm going to start hammering down some nails here.
1. Pokemon theft has occurred only with Team Rocket, Team Plasma, and Team Galactic. In each instance, only one "evil" team, and I use that word subjectively, planned to keep the Pokemon and use them indefinitely. That was Team Rocket. Galactic wanted to collect energy, and Plasma stole Pokemon under the pretense of liberating them. Team Flare, as ridiculous as they were had the right idea. Lets steal us some Pokeballs, Great Balls, and Ultra Balls to capture Pokemon. The theft of Pokemon doesn't have to be the centre of what an evil organization is about. In fact, there's plenty of development one can do outside of just "stealing Pokemon." Look at Magma and Aqua. They were at war with each other. They wanted to change the very landscape of the world, which would upset any balance that the world had. Plasma was more effective when they didn't steal Pokemon. If they had've been kept that way but still retained that sense of villainous air, they would've appeared to actually have a rather good point and planted doubt into the minds of many trainers. So my point here, is that though Pokemon Theft can lead to character development, there are other ways to entice character development via the activities of an evil organization.
Pokemon Theft is the most minor this site could handle, Now before an argument starts out here about that small statement, If pokemon theft is unallowed, Then using the basis of any of the canon team's which covers almost every basis from destruction of the world to simple release and world manipulation. Pokemon Theft being the weakest of all the other teams theories.
Team Rocket stole pokemon for profit which was simple and sweet.
Team Galactic stole pokemon and had an ultimate plan of completely recreating the entire pokemon universe, Concidering the torment over single pokemon theft then i highly doubt recreating the entire universe is even a plausable statement to put forth.
Team plasma through trickery forced those to simply release there pokemon into the wild though had the plan for only team plasma members to keep pokemon thus ruling over. They also had an almost complete plan of hacking into the pokemon system and releasing everyones pokemon, Again another scenario that is highly doubtful.
Team Magma and Team Aqua used those one of a kind legendaries that on this site are not one of a kind to either sink the earth or raise the sea each scenario destorying and ultimatly recreating a new world. - raising the sea = killing of land pokemon. Expanding the land = killing of sea dwelling pokemon.Yet another scenario which is again with the site being at this impass of "Syndacite groups" impossible.
As for team flare, Correct they stole minor ingredients, But then murdered hundreds of pokemon. I wasn't even allowed to have my arbok eat a k.o'd wild sandslash so i doubt murdering 100s of pokemon is a scenario allowed to be played out.
Thus leaving pokemon theft as the darkest area that can be implemented with a basic and fair system which the afrore given system clearly is. Though i find it slightly hilarious that no one has bothered to pick up on the fact that this is simply a single system that will be followed by many.
2. World Response. It's easier to deal in a region, but it becomes a stressful challenge to garner and keep the attention of trainers from several different regions. I would love to see this be successful, but you are more oriented towards having Pokemon Theft being the focal point of this. This ties in with my above point, because the actions of the organisation need to gain notoriety and infamy. It's not easy maintaining interesting in an organisation that spans several regions without dedicated members of the organisation keeping up appearances and causing interference throughout the many regions.
Everyone thinks big, Concidering every single syndacite aimed for world domination one way or another. Naturally region by region would be taken over and of course in a logical and plausable way with time consumption. I will be adding to this thread different systems to use with the Team Rocket. This is simply the THEFT system. any feedback and work with mods instead of NO NO NO would be appreciated to try to kickstart an official and site wide evil team.
3. On the subject of Topic Tags. There's also OOC notes people should pay attention to as well. Some private topics may state "PM for permission to join", meaning that though it's not open, you're welcome to try and present a plot to someone in their private topic. Some people like to have a posting order which might be stated there, others might have notices of absences. I don't think we use stuff like that too often though, but it's something to keep in mind.
again as stated above tagging would be followed. Though generally OOC based tags come under the metagame rules.
4. @Matt. Even if a gym was to be destroyed, it wouldn't impede anything at all. Just go have a Pokemon Battle outside while it's being repaired. Gym Leaders are easily replaced, and I'm seriously not joking. We could easily just present an NPC with reasonably appropriate Pokemon in their party. Oh look I did a really positive suggestion.
This was actually going to be part of the "Destruction System" which incorporated similar information, Just because a Gym building is destroyed doesn't mean the Gym leader will stop taking requests. But yes again this will be presented as a secondary system. This first area was to slice parts of so that each system would have there own focus instead of an enormous block of text that eventually only gets skimmed due to the TLDR slogans.
5. Going into detail about Pokemon Theft, as the first instance my post mentioned it was simply for plot convenience. Let's face it, the person who takes the Pokemon would not be given control over that Pokemon. That Pokemon would not simply "lose all hope." It would likely fight back and try to get to it's trainer. Well within reason that stolen Pokemon don't immediantly obey you, thus control of said Pokemon should remain with the original owner before it was stolen. The changing of control is something that should be worked on. I've given you a very fair method of being able to steal Pokemon at this point, but how the Pokemon come to obey the new master is on you.
Actually, That depends on the pokemosn information, A newly caught pokemon for example would switch allegiance quicker, But yes this was going to be another system created that lin fairness could have been added to the information given in the first topic.
6. Trainer Classes. I would seriously like to see Trainer Classes themselves reworked to provide more rewarding effects on the role-playing experiences here. Breeders have it pretty good right now, but Coordinators were brought up about not having a contest system. Trainers don't really have anything special or even any type specialties outside of say, Dragon Tamer. Gym Leaders needs to be revised if it is going to stay, and Ghost is just a spirit playing trainer. Elementalists were created alongside Ealora and walk a very tight rope because if Ealora is ever taken down, they'll go too. And then there's Aura trainers. These bastards need to be revised ten-fold, because not only are they multipurpose, but can essentially read a character's alignment and act accordingly. They are the only legitimate trainer class that can use any kind of special attack here., and by legitimate I mean canon.
Personally all those "special" trainer classes are useless anyway, Elementalists are in my mind useless unless for supplementary reasons an example being my char using her fire power to illuminate a cave. Its not like you can do any damage with your powers due to the rules here. But yea i agree with this though the team rocket would be a trainer class with the abilities of the systems implemented if things ever happen.
In short, as much as I like the idea and concept, the focal point from the beginning should not have been the theft of Pokemon. Had it been presented in a much more agreeable manner and then, later down the road say that the idea was brought up, and discussed in much detail then I would've likely been perfectly okay with fighting for this. This doesn't mean I'm outright saying no either. I'd like to see more thought put into the concept, and not to be "Team Rocket". Take the possibilities and build upon them. It's not appealing to us when the biggest point and lengthiest detail you give us is a Pokemon Theft system, which in and of itself has loopholes that can be exploited like the rules and systems of this site.
Again, I don't see why people no offence to anyone can't read the small portion at the bottom of the first post, This is only the first part of a long long long long system that i aim to complete, Though my intention is to post each system Seperatly thus allowing each system to get a fair looking instead of OH THIS ONE SAYS POKEMON THEFT NOOO this one says THEY GET A HIDEOUT YES oh this one says they can stub each others toes NOO. Implementing a huge wall of text of mass systems all at once is a ridiculous thing to do because more than nought eventually things get overlooked then brought up further down the line like oh say AURA TRAINERS.
Not only that but no one seems to have focused on the fact that the theft system stated actually gives the trainer of the stolen pokemon an INFINITE amount of time to retrieve there pokemon. The first month even allows it to be done without having to battle which seems incredibly fair and just to me. As for more thought again this is the biggest and strongest point of the group obviously this means it needs the most attention thus posting it first to have every kink beaten out is the most logical thing to do instead of posting all the mediocre parts that fall apart when one of the vital area's of said group will never be allowed. Thus the minor areas having work would be futile. Why go through all the work then having it fall apart at the last hurdle?
Though i do thank you for offering suggestions and parts of the information will be incorporated into the other systems i have planned. IF it is easier i will write up tomorrow an introduction and plot based for the group. Also Team Rocket is staying, Nostalgia and all that ^^
[Side Note - Hopefully no one feels put out with these replies, Its 5 Am and i should have went to bed hours ago]
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Subject: Re: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:44 pm
THis needs a bump, Staff get looking -_-
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Subject: Re: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:37 pm
Bumpy bumpitity
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Subject: Re: Being bad. Team Rocket Style. Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:50 pm
I also, disapprove of this idea as, I feel it could create bad feelings and tension between members to have their hard-earned and trained pokemon stolen from them therefore another disapproval.